Method:
I clocked the time it takes to cast 100 spells and that’s pretty much it. I started by putting all points in dex at creation, get aug dex 5 etc to see the what i got with the highest possible dex, then i removed items and clocked a new time. If the new time was different from the first one, i adjusted items, starting points and RAs and tested a number between the two. I then repeated this until i found the “breaking point.
Not all tests were done with 100 casts as i didn’t have enough power. The spread heal (3.5s) for example was tested with 25 casts and then multiplied by 4.
Result:
1) There are “breaking points” where your cast speed gets significantly faster.
2) Anything in between these breaking points gives very little or no return.
3) Maybe someone will, but i fail to see a pattern in these breaking points.
4) The breaking points seem to apply to all spells with the same cast time, but i have not and am not going to test it for all spells.
+10% CAST SPEED DURING THE WHOLE TEST
Breaking points:
2.0s —> 392 dex, 344 dex, 337 dex
2.1s —> 356 dex, 354 dex, 308 dex
2.2s —> 374 dex, 368 dex, 320 dex
2.3s —> 386 dex, 380 dex, 332 dex
2.4s —> 392 dex, 350 dex, 307 dex
2.5s —> 362 dex, 319 dex
2.6s —> 374 dex, 332 dex
2.7s —> 386 dex, 344 dex
2.8s —> 392 dex, 356 dex, 320 dex
2.9s —> 368 dex, 362 dex, 332 dex
3.0s —> 374 dex, 338 dex
3.5s —> 356 dex, 326 dex
The test:
(2.0s delve) Tested with Mentalist nearsight
407 dex = 95.4 sec
395 dex = 96.0 sec
392 dex = 95.6 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
391 dex = 111.0 sec
390 dex = 110.0 sec
388 dex = 110.8 sec
374 dex = 110.6 sec
360 dex = 110.9 sec
355 dex = 110.8 sec
346 dex = 111.0 sec
344 dex = 110.9 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
343 dex = 118.2 sec
341 dex = 117.8 sec
338 dex = 118.3 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
337 dex = 125.6 sec
318 dex = 126.4 sec
(2.1 sec) Tested with 2.1s greater heal
382 dex = 94.9 sec
357 dex = 96.4 sec
356 dex = 96.8 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
355 dex = 102.4 sec
354 dex = 102.9 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
353 dex = 107.3 sec
352 dex = 107.4 sec
350 dex = 108.0 sec
342 dex = 110.4 sec
326 dex = 110.0 sec
311 dex = 110.8 sec
309 dex = 111.2 sec
308 dex = 110.6 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
307 dex = 119.6 sec
306 dex = 118.9 sec
(2.2 sec) Tested with 2.2s greater heal
382 dex = 95.2 sec
375 dex = 95.2 sec
374 dex = 94.8 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
373 dex = 99.4 sec
371 dex = 99.5 sec
368 dex = 99.6 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
367 dex = 110.3 sec
365 dex = 109.2 sec
364 dex = 110.2 sec
362 dex = 111.0 sec
352 dex = 110.7 sec
346 dex = 111.2 sec
339 dex = 110.4 sec
326 dex = 111.6 sec
321 dex = 112.8 sec
320 dex = 113.2 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
319 dex = 125.5 sec
316 dex = 125.0 sec
311 dex = 126.2 sec
(2.3 sec) Tested with 2.3s greater heal
391 dex = 94.6 sec
388 dex = 94.4 sec
386 dex = 94.3 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
385 dex = 99.8 sec
384 dex = 98.9 sec
380 dex = 98.7 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
379 dex = 109.7 sec
378 dex = 109.6 sec
363 dex = 110.0 sec
351 dex = 110.8 sec
338 dex = 110.0 sec
332 dex = 111.2 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
331 dex = 125.9 sec
330 dex = 126.1 sec
329 dex = 125.7 sec
326 dex = 126.0 sec
(2.4 sec) Tested with 2.4s greater heal
392 dex = 96.2
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
391 dex = 109.8 sec
386 dex = 110.8 sec
361 dex = 110.2 sec
358 dex = 110.9 sec
353 dex = 110.8 sec
351 dex = 111.7 sec
350 dex = 111.0 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
349 dex = 126.1 sec
336 dex = 126.2 sec
325 dex = 126.2 sec
313 dex = 126.4 sec
308 dex = 126.3 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
307 dex = 140.0 sec
306 dex = 142.6 sec
304 dex = 143.0 sec
299 dex = 142.2 sec
(2.5 sec) Tested with animist lifetap and 2.5s heal
402 dex = 110.4 sec
394 dex = 110.7 sec
380 dex = 110.9 sec
373 dex = 111.3 sec
367 dex = 111.4 sec
362 dex = 111.4 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
361 dex = 123.9 sec
360 dex = 124.0 sec
359 dex = 123.6 sec
356 dex = 123.8 sec
335 dex = 126.6 sec
320 dex = 127.6 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
319 dex = 140.4 sec
315 dex = 141.0 sec
310 dex = 142.6 sec
295 dex = 142.2 sec
(2.6 sec) Tested with hib baseline nuke and 2.6s major heal
424 dex = 110.5 sec
385 dex = 110.4 sec
380 dex = 110.8 sec
377 dex = 111.5 sec
375 dex = 111.6 sec
374 dex = 111.3 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
373 dex = 122.6 sec
340 dex = 126.0 sec
333 dex = 128.6 sec
332 dex = 129.8 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
331 dex = 141.6 sec
330 dex = 141.4 sec
326 dex = 140.8 sec
319 dex = 141.2 sec
(2.7 sec) Tested with 2.7s major heal
392 dex = 108.6 sec
391 dex = 110.3 sec
388 dex = 110.4 sec
386 dex = 110.2 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
385 dex = 119.1 sec
384 dex = 121.0 sec
357 dex = 125.4 sec
350 dex = 126.3 sec
345 dex = 128.1 sec
344 dex = 126.9 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
343 dex = 140.8 sec
342 dex = 141.3 sec
340 dex = 140.9 sec
336 dex = 141.2 sec
333 dex = 142.0 sec
(2.8 sec) Tested with menta spec nuke, animist ST bomb and 2.8s major heal
405 dex = 110.4 sec
402 dex = 110.6 sec
398 dex = 110.8 sec
394 dex = 111.3 sec
392 dex = 111.5 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
391 dex = 125.6 sec
390 dex = 126.2 sec
388 dex = 126.1 sec
386 dex = 126.5 sec
380 dex = 126.5 sec
379 dex = 127.2 sec
375 dex = 127.1 sec
370 dex = 126.8 sec
365 dex = 126.7 sec
360 dex = 127.0 sec
356 dex = 127.1 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
355 dex = 141.2 sec
340 dex = 142.3 sec
333 dex = 142.4 sec
326 dex = 142.0 sec
324 dex = 142.1 sec
321 dex = 142.8 sec
320 dex = 143.1 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
319 dex = 154.0 sec
318 dex = 153.2 sec
(2.9 sec) Tested with 2.9s major heal
382 dex = 126.0 sec
368 dex = 126.8 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
367 dex = 135.2 sec
366 dex = 136.6 sec
364 dex = 136.2 sec
362 dex = 136.3 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
361 dex = 141.2 sec
354 dex = 142.3 sec
336 dex = 141.6 sec
334 dex = 141.2 sec
332 dex = 142.5 sec
————————— Breaking point —————————
331 dex = 154.3 sec
330 dex = 154.4 sec
323 dex = 158.4 sec
(3.0s delve) Tested with menta confusion and 3.0s major heal
424 dex = 126.0 sec
403 dex = 126.8 sec
384 dex = 127.2 sec
380 dex = 127.0 sec
375 dex = 128.0 sec
374 dex = 127.6 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
373 dex = 141.6 sec
369 dex = 142.3 sec
346 dex = 144.0 sec
339 dex = 147.1 sec
338 dex = 149.8 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
337 dex = 158.4 sec
335 dex = 158.0 sec
322 dex = 158.4 sec
(3.5 sec) Tested with lvl 30 spreadheal
382 dex = 156.4 sec
370 dex = 157.2 sec
365 dex = 158.4 sec
360 dex = 157.9 sec
358 dex = 158.0 sec
356 dex = 157.7 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
355 dex = 171.5 sec
354 dex = 173.6 sec
326 dex = 173,2 sec
—————————- Breaking point —————————-
325 dex = 188.0 sec
324 dex = 188.5 sec
321 dex = 189.5 sec
316 dex = 188.7 sec
301 dex = 190.5 sec
Dev noted that the breaking points do not exist, as those were internal optimizations in DaoC. Casting speed on Uthgard is calculated precisely down the ms.
This tester describes using “mentalist nearsight” so we can be reasonably sure it’s not data from Uthgard 2. I haven’t read enough discussions of this matter to recognise who wrote this if it’s borrowed from some forum post somewhere. Mads, can you comment on where this is from? Did you do this testing? Where and when?
Thanks
It is forum posts from freddyshouse and other forums from the time of classic daoc, it has been very hard to version determine all information, so it is not all specific for the uthgard 1 or 2 implementations.